Originally the name
had a letter with 2 dots above it (
) for Germany and Bohemia
but then later after the fall of the Austrian-Hungarian Empire, the
had to be changed to "e"
so now the new Family original name is Pletl
1454 Jews are expelled from Brunn Moravia by
order of King Ladislaus.
Our Family comes
originally from Bohemia, then they swept across Germany in the
15th century in the form of Royalty, Princess, Princes' Lords and
even an Archbishop of Bruno now in Czechoslovakia which
was in the Austrian-Hungarian Empire
Hans Platl Von Lichtenberg
was his name.
of the Lichtenberg clan.
That is not him below. It is your Host. ME!
Leslie Charles Paul
But you can call me Les
"Royalty is not divine -
if your actions are honorable, then you will be royal no matter what
cloth you were cut from."
I just made the picture above for a joke.
About 4 years ago my Aunt sent me to
Bruno, in Czechoslovakia to find something about out family
but I only found one pc of paper but it was significant
because our family blood line was dated back to the 15th
century before I went and this document proves that our family goes
back to the 14 century, but without the hard work of the
Family Library custodian, we would not have a family library.
Picture of Agi
Ludwig II von Lichtenberg, + 1271.
Johann I von Lichtenberg, Lord, + 1315, Md. 1295,
Adelfeid von Werdenberg, + 1343, d. of Hugo I von
Below, is the kind of clothes they wore in those days in
the 12th century
Montfort, Count of Werdenberg
(need to find out What happened here)
In a further certificate purchased in 1272 the town Georgenthal a Arnstädter One by the mill owners to Siegelsbach situated
vineyard. How extensive must have been the vineyards in and
around Arnstadt, tells us that of Dr.
CA Burkhardt edited "document the city of Arnstadt. It will be in a document 14th
Century no less than 44 vineyards and fields mentioned. From a
The exact date of his birth is not known, not even
the exact year, because in theMiddle
Agesa person's death
date was considered far more important than their birth date, since
a memorial mass would be celebrated on the death date.
He was the second son ofUlrich
IV of Hanau(born:
between 1330 and 1340; died: in September or October 1380) and
Countess Elizabeth ofWertheim(1347–1378
). In the ruling family of Hanau, an explicitprimogeniturestatue
of 1375 stipulated that only the eldest son could inherit the
Lordship and even that only he could marry. Reinhard II as second
son of Ulrich IV as was destined for a clerical career. He received
a suitable education for such a career; in 1387 he was studying at
of Bologna. In 1390, one of the sons of Ulrich IV, possibly
Reinhard II, was enrolled as a student at theuniversity
of Heidelberg. The entry in the register does not mention a
name, it merely statesde
abandoned his spiritual career in 1391, and closed a contract with
his elder brotherUlrich
V, which guaranteed him an annual income. The background was
probably that Ulrich V's marriage was still childless and they
wanted to preserve the possibility that Reinhard might succeed
Ulrich V. The contract awarded Reinhard an annual sum of 400 florins
and a share in thedistrictsPartenstein,Rieneck,
Bieber and Haßlau. This was the first generation in the history of
the Hanau family where the younger sons did not join the clergy. In
1398, the contract was renewed, and Ulrich and Reinhard's younger
of Hanauwas also
awarded a persion, after a dispute with John had led to actual
other document showing that in
the Lord Lichtenberg and the other lords of Arnstadt including
the tried, to transform the city and surrounding area in a
single vineyard. In 1496 the vineyards located in Arnstadt and field
were the following Men Spent: .. Hans von Lichtenberg = 14 acres vineyard and a field
outside the Erfurt Goal .. Iring of Witzleben = 8 acres Weingarten .. Hot and Kurt von Rottleben = 4 acres of wine wax .. Friedrich, Klaus, and Kurt von Witzleben = 3 acres
Weingarten .. Heinrich Acker wine from the court = 1 wax In addition a large number of vineyards were in the
size of a half acre, the scattered were in the large estates and most property wealthy
Reihard's grave stone in the St. Mary's Church in
Philipp II, Graf von Hanau-Lichtenberg, Herr
zu Babenhausen, Buchweiler, & Neuweiler1,2
After the death of his father raised his
to the rule.Theprimogeniturewas
indeed in the Hanauer family statutes since the 14thAnchored
century, the generallaw
but spoke for a country subdivision.Through
the mediation of CountPhilipp
I of Hanau-Münzenbergit
came within a short time reached a settlement and Louis
renounced his claim.Shortly
thereafter, he went on apilgrimageto
died here in 1484 on the return journey.
Philip II ruled at first in close imitation
parts of the county of Hanau-Lichtenberg was.Philip
II supported ElectorPhilipof
the Palatinate, at the siege of the castleHohengeroldseck.
Cooperation, but also was armed with the
since a significant portion of therule
at first ruled jointly.It
was not until 1487 there was a confrontation between two of
the Lichtenberger heritage.Together
went Count Philipp II and CountSimon
Zweibrücken-Bitsch against themistressof
her late father,Jakob
After the death of Jacob von Lichtenberg 1480 she was
the town ofHagenauincarcerated.The
two used to the city council for adeath
it was to go to the fortune of the Barbel Ottensheim.Another
possibility is that the tense situation in order in advance
be brought a "scapegoat" to the subjects, as the mistress
had had far-reaching influence on the government and was
said to be hated by the people.Before
it came to a verdict, Bärbel died in prison - the cause
was a lengthy discussion regarding the Mainz fief, which was
finally settled to the effect that Philip II, the cityKlingenbergceded
to Mainz, but half ofBrumathreceived
as a fief.
He participated in various diets, the main
point of the danger of aTurkishinvasion
in Central Europe.
war of successionbetween
1503-1505 of the Palatinate and Bavaria remained neutral
Philip, but his son and designated successor, Philip III.of
Hanau-Lichtenberg, who was involved on the part of the
the execution of theimperial
of the peacecommissioned
classified Palatinate and its allies.The
rural area of theOffice
already destroyed, before it succeeded Philip II, with the
help of Maximilian I, and the fact that Babenhausen as aBohemianfief
belonged to the Habsburgs indirectly, halting the campaign
against their own possessions.The
fact that his son was fighting on the "wrong" side expecting
him not to Maximilian.Philip
Babenhausen residence was spared so at least.She
received in 1503 by Maximilian I. theprivilegeto
be allowed to hold an annual fair - the Nicholas Market.
M, b. 31 May 1462, d. 22 August 1504
Drawing by Karl Gruber of the grave monument of Count
Philip Louis I of Hanau-Münzenberg, that was destroyed duringWorld
William Laud, Archbishop of Canterbury, is
beheaded at London January 10 at age 71, having
been tried by the House of Commons and found
guilty of high treason. Puritan William Prynne
has led the attack against the
diminutive and small-minded
prelate, who has been held prisoner in the
Tower of London since 1641.
James Graham, marquis of
Montrose, takes the marquis of Argyll by
surprise at Inverlochy north of Fort William
February 2 and routs his 3,000-man army (see
1644). Montrose has only 1,500 men, but they
leave about 1,700 enemy killed or wounded and
proceed to lay waste Moray and Aberdeenshire,
elude an army led by William Bailie of Letham at
Brechin, capture and pillage Dundee, escape into
the Grampian hills, defeat one of Bailie's
lieutenants at Auldearn near Nairn, and rout
Bailie himself at Altford.
Sir Thomas Fairfax, now 33, is appointed
commander in chief of a New Model Army in
February and works to organize and train an
effective fighting force as England's Civil War
continues. Oliver Cromwell has taken steps to
create a Parliamentary army whose commanding
officers owe their appointments to abillty
rather than social standing, he has outfitted
them with red uniforms (red is the cheapest
dye available), and by spring these first
"redcoats" have polished their skills in weapon
A Self-Denying Ordinance passed by the House
of Lords in April discharges members of
Parliament from any obligation to hold civil or
military commands. William Fiennes, 1st viscount
Saye and Sele, has been chiefly responsible
for the measure's passage. Charles I sends his
son and namesake to the west country,
whence the youth escapes to France and
rejoins his mother.
Parliamentary army lieutenant colonel John
Lilburne resigns his commission in April rather
subscribe to the
Solemn League and Covenant with Scotland,
which commits Parliament to reform the Church of
England along Presbyterian lines (see
1640). Commissioned a captain in
Cromwell's army when hostilities began 3
years ago, Lilburne was taken prisoner at
Brentford in November 1642, nearly tried for
treason, but exchanged for a Royalist prisoner.
He criticizes Parliament and its army for not
supporting the radical demands of the Leveller
movement—transfer of sovereignty to the House of
Commons, suffrage for all men whether or not
they own property, complete equality before the
decentralization of government to local
redistribution of parliamentary seats,
biennial parliamentary sessions to give
ordinary citizens representation, an end to
conscription and impressment, reopening of
enclosed land, and the like. Arrested and sent
once again to prison, Lilburne will remain under
confinement with few interruptions until August
Prince Rupert captures Leicester in May, but
Battle of Naseby in Northamptonshire June 14
ends in a decisive defeat of Charles I's English
Cavaliers at the hands of Oliver Cromwell's
Roundheads in a triumph for the English middle
class and merchants, who are supported by many
of the country's great noblemen in the
continuing Civil War. Prince Rupert's 4,000
infantrymen and 5,000 cavalry are outnumbered by
the Parliamentarians, whose New Model Army
consists of 7,000 infantry and 6,000 cavalry.
Some 6,000 of Charles's men are killed, wounded,
or taken prisoner; the Roundheads suffer fewer
than 1,000 casualties and capture all 13
Sir Thomas Fairfax marches his New Model Army
to the southwest and defeats the only remaining
Royalist army in July at Langport, Somerset.
The marquis of Montrose marches south in July
with 2,000 men, having augmented his numbers.
Bailie and the marquis of Argyll follow but are
defeated at Kilsyth August 15 and suffer
terrible losses (their entire 6,000-man force is
killed, wounded, or captured). Montrose's
clansmen slip away home with their
booty, however, and when Montrose enters the
border country with 500 cavalry and 1,000
infantry he is taken by surprise in a dawn
attack at Philiphaugh, near
Selkirk, September 13 by 6,000 Covenanter
troops, mostly cavalry, under the command of
General David Leslie, 44, who cut Montrose's
Royalist army to pieces (see
Prince Rupert surrenders Bristol to the
Parliamentarians in September and is dismissed
from his command.
Europe's Thirty Years' War nears its end.
Swedish soldiers Lennart Torstensson, 42, and
Count Hans Christoph Königsmark repulse an
imperial army under General Matthias Gallas, now
61, in January and block efforts by the army to
relieve the hard-pressed Danes. They pursue the
enemy into Germany, and virtually annihilate
Gallas's army at
Magdeburg. Torstensson gains a victory over
the imperialists at Jankau in
Bohemia in March, conquers
Moravia with support from the
Transylvanian prince George Rákoczi, and
advances on Vienna. Henri de la Tour d'Auvergne,
vicomte de Turenne, 33, is defeated in
Franconia but raises a French and Hessian
army that invades Bavaria and defeats the
Bavarians in the (second) Battle of Nördlingen (Allerheim)
August 3. Commanded by the duc d'Enghien, now
24, the French and Hessians have 6,000 infantry,
11,000 cavalry, and 11 guns; the
Imperialist/Bavarian army commanded by Field
Marshal Baron Franz von Mercy has 5,000
infantry, 9,000 cavalry, and 23 guns; the duc
d'Enghien prevails, but he loses 4,000 killed
and wounded. Von Mercy is killed, 5,000 of his
men are killed or wounded, and 15 of his guns
are captured. Plague breaks out in the Swedish
army of Count Torstensson as he lays siege to
Brunn and he returns to Bohemia.
The Russian czar Mikhail I Romanov dies at
Moscow July 12 at age 49, having founded the
dynasty that will continue until 1917; he is
succeeded by his son, 16, who will reign until
1676 as Aleksei Mikhailovich.
Czech Nationalism and Nationhood
The 19th cent. brought a rebirth of Czech
nationalism. Under the leadership of
Palacký a Slavic congress assembled at
Prague in the Revolution of 1848, but by
1849, although the Czech peasantry had been
emancipated, absolute Austrian domination
had been forcibly restored. The
establishment (1867) of the
Austro-Hungarian Monarchy thoroughly
disappointed the Czech aspirations for wide
political autonomy within a federalized
Austria. Instead, the Czech lands were
relegated to a mere province of the empire.
Concessions were made (1879) by the Austrian
Taaffe; Czechs entered the imperial
bureaucracy and parliament at Vienna.
However, many Czechs continued to advocate
complete separation from the Hapsburg
Full independence was reached only at the
end of World War I under the guidance of T.
Masaryk. In 1918, Bohemia became the
core of the new state of
Czechoslovakia. After the Munich Pact of
1938, Czechoslovakia was stripped of the
so-called Sudeten area, which was annexed to
Germany. In 1939, Bohemia was invaded by
German troops and proclaimed part of the
German protectorate of Bohemia and Moravia.
After World War II the pre-1938
boundaries were restored, and most of the
German-speaking population was expelled. In
1948, Bohemia's status as a province was
abolished, and it was divided into nine
administrative regions. The administrative
reorganization of 1960 redivided it into
five regions and the city of Prague. In
1969, Bohemia, along with Moravia and Czech
Silesia, was incorporated into the Czech
Socialist Republic, renamed the Czech
Republic in 1990. The
Czech Republic became an independent
state when Czechoslovakia was dissolved on
Jan. 1, 1993
1646 Hans Platl Von Lichtenberg
was the Archbishop of the Brunn (New Spelling Bruno)
We are directly related to him though the Platl Family which
is our family.
Thank God our name wasn't Smith or Schmitt.
FriendsFirst.ca you will find lower down
welcome to my world
You need to know the person you are interested in
Where he came from
What he really is.
You don't really know much and if you want to cling
onto someone because you have a few common interests that is ok. But the truth is
it would be better to know a lot about each other and then if there is chemistry
Below is a pictures of my fathers family in the Old country. The
Family has been the family of over 600 years. Our lineage can be traced
back to the Crusades.
If you are here because you are learning about
who I am am, then please provide be with some information about you.
Where you came from, where you think you are going because all of
that is quite interesting to me. As you go through this
site you will see many interesting things, as I am writing a book
about my family from the time they were hiding Jews during WWII and
save some 700 families from the axe to You know the movie Schindlers
list my Grand fathers List was 20 times longer as he owned
factories and vineyards and all kinds of things. He had people
sitting around making up professions and then convincing the Germans
not to take them away. Loosing all their
wealth after the war. Coming to Canada with nothing and
starting again. By the time my grand father came to Canada
after loosing every thing twice, Once to the Germans and then again
to the Russians, He came he at 66 at $5.00 in his pocket. And when
he died at 88, he was a multi-millionaire all over again.
*"Making millions is easy, holding on to them is quite another" *
And the rest, as we say is History.
In 1688 Platl Came to Hungary and there was no such letter
will 2 dots above the "a" so they changed the name to Pletl for the new
Pletl Married Rak
Later Rak married Bubik 1905 I think?
We are working on this now
1717 Married into the Bubik
(it is an amazing Library of facts which my aunt runs for the family)
it is kind o cool to see your family coat or carved carved into stone in some
churches in Europe
My grandparents, my dad and my other
aunts and uncle
My Grand Parents Vineyard below
After loosing everything twice. Once to The Germans
during the 2nd WW and then again to the Russians. My
grandfather came to
Canada A broken man with $5.00 in his pocket at 65 and when he died at 80,
he was a multi-millionaire all over again. Amazing And a very hard
working and industrious family.
My mom in 1940
second from the left and bottom row
My dad was already interested and during the war when the
Germans were taking them away. My Grandfathers family
The Bubiks helped my moms family and his them in one of their
houses. Then another family showed up and then another
and another until , they were hiding them in barns and other
properties My Grand Father saved 760 people from
the chopping block and Schindlers list was nothing
compared to my Grandfathers list. I was told that they
sat around for hours making up titles for jobs. You see
the Germans gave free laborers to the Factory owners t make their
bullets and tanks. My grand father had a few of them
so he was able to same many and because he owned farms and
vineyards. He was able to feed everyone of them. I
was told when My grand father came to Canada he was a broken man
with 5.00 in in pocket at 65 and when he died at 88, he was a
multi millionaire again. Simply amazing.
My Grand fathers brother was the Director of the Berlin
Opera house during the second world war and was also involved with
the smuggling of those , who were involved in Hitler's
ASSASSINATION attempt. out of the Country. Bringing them to
Argentina. Why Argentina, I am not sure but His Name was
Arpad Bubik and He was also the director
of a theater in Argentina but it was never as successful as it
was for him in Berlin. He was a Hungarian Patriot when Hungary
One of My Uncles was the find guide. He took 42 Jews across
the Hungarian/Austrian border. He only talked about the
war when he dot really drunk like at weddings. I always
listened to the stories. He told me that it would have
been better if he stepped on a mine and when I asked why? He
said because He did not know where the mines where. WOW
When I was a kid some Hebrew foundation called my house, I was
living at 421 Roselawn Avenue in those days. 416 481-4344 and
wanted to give an award to my fathers family for there efforts
in the war helping Jews and getting them to safe places
I accepted the award and told my dad who was furious. And
told me he is not interested in any award. Later I found out
why. Myfather eventually told me he does nt want to
relive any of it. My Grand father hid the Jew under the
noses of the Germans. In plain site.
My family did some pretty dangerous things like take the bombs
out of planes that were shot down, they were stripped down and sent
to the "underground " to be used against the Germans. WOW
my dad was nuts. In those days where were no cell phones when
when you went from one place to another with a gas ration on,
they walked and tool their bicycles. My one uncle
Imre Bubik. was caught by the Germans and torched so much he went
crazy, but he never gave the locations f the save houses.
He remained crazy till the end of his life, just a few short years
ago My mother is also gone
My Family paid a very heavy price for what they did to help the
Jews and it never would have started if my dad hadn't met my
This is where the mistake occurred. Because Gas was being
rationed , no one had gas for their vehicles But the Bubik
family always had gas. Even towards the end of the war, even the
Germans has to ration their gas, because there was not enough to go
around, But by this time The Bubik had lots
because my dad was pumping the gas out of the planes that
crashed on their lands. The Germans weren't stupid, they just
followed the trail and eventually busted them all.
Hiding a Jew was worse than being one, in those days and I
never met my grand mothers and tons of relatives because many were
rounded up and shot and they were the lucky ones. The rest
were sent to processing and labour camps. My dad was
able to escape capture only to be captured by the Russians at the
end of the war. WOW .. he and my dad found an old spoon
and and the ground was frozen but they both
managed to escape by using the spoor to dig under the fence. If
the Russians has dogs, they would not have been able to
escape. My Dad, almost starving to get back to
his land only to find that the Russians were occupying it.
My Grand Father lost every thing to the Germans and then the
Germans where blowing things up on their retreat including my
Grandfathers factories. The my fathers family went into
the factories to salvage what they could and were hiding
machinery in barns and other places because the Russians were
taking the machines away. What a story but all true.
Bubik Arpad - 1944 was responsible for getting Germans, involved in the assasination attempt on Hitler, to get them out odf the Country, smuggeling them out of the Country and taking them to Argentina.
" Dohnányi’s misery", he learned that his son Matthew, who had become a Captain in the Hungarian Army, had died in a Russian concentration camp. Just a few months later, Dohnányi learned that his other son, Hans (father of the famous conductor Christoph von Dohnányi), had been executed by the Nazis for his involvement in Hungary’s 20 July 1944 assassination plot against Hitler. Dohnányi, fearing for his own life, accepted an offer from Árpád Bubik, who had once been his secretary, to escape Europe and move to Buenos Aires, Argentina. "
Magyar színháztörténet: 1920-1949
Because everyone lost touch with everyone else after the ware many
thought the others has perished. And that is why my dad did
not want to accept the award. But I will go to Israel to
accept it because the woman my dad has the "hots" for
and who they got out of the country. One of them was my mother to
be. Her name was Veronica, but everyone called her Vera.
She met my dad in Paris after the war and then went to Brazil
together where they met My moms sister. Edith.
Edith married , John Gati (a holocaust survivor) in New York.
He was A film animator and she was a head designer for
Givenchy. When I was a kid I met Mr. Givenchy a fes times Mr.
Gucci and all the famous designers, most of whom where Jewish.
Both are gone not and They have been survived my their two
sons Paul and William or Bill.
Paul Was a great violinist and William was a great Pianist.
I remember as a kid when they both were in Julliard and
has sold out concerts at Carnegie Hall, there in New York.
There is more but I am still filling in the pieces.
You see...no one wants t talk about the war. Especially those
who gave great sacrifices to it.
my dad was never really in the war.
My dad had a few Motorcycles. They were one of his
My fathers glider when he was 18 - I had no idea they had such
modern things in those days. I mean look at that thing. That picture
was taken almost 60 years ago
My dad also had a truck and He and his bother would take
the plane apart, put it in the truck, drive it to the top of some really
big hill or mountain on their property, reassemble it, and launch it off
some cliff. OR--------- THEY COULD PULL THE PLANE BEHIND
THE TRUCK a with a very long cable AND LAUNCH IT INTO THE AIR.
When I was a kid he used to take me
gliding. Just outside of Toronto I eventually got my STUDENT license.
iN THAT CASE i WAS PULLED INTO THE AIR BY ANOTHER PLANE. IT WAS COOL
BUT IT WAS NOT MY THING.
Pictures of my dad in the old days, before he met my mom
My fathers hunting hawk
I don't understand the attraction, of a Hunting Hawk,
But they didn't have internet in those days. They had to fill of those
days with other things.
My dad having a rest.
A machine my dad designed which was part of a conveyer system for my grand
Here was a picture of him when he realized he would have to
leave it all behind. In the old country.
Just after the war. They met in Paris and my moms sister was already
making her own clothes
This was the first Family they hid from the Germans During WWII.
In those days there were Edith on the left and Vera
(Short for Veronica on the right)
My mom with an old boyfriend
Here with another one. She was a model for Vogue in those days and
she was being perused by many
My dad was a popular guy with the Ladies too below
This house in the country - one of the weekend homes
Was this where the glider was DAD? The House staff were
standing out in front.
You see, we live in a very inefficient world. We've been doing this for the
last few hundred years. And though there has been a lot of improvement in
technology, Bristol very backwards. Canada is the worst. But it doesn't have to
be this way.
People heat and cool their whole house even though they're not in the rooms
that are being heated or cooled. Why? It is a complete waste.
There are systems out there that you can buy that automatically adjust to the
flus and defense in your house, so that it only heats and cools the areas of the
house picture in. But most people can't afford a system like that. A cheap
Of the most important thing, it to have a good temperature where you're
working, and when you're sleeping, or doing other things.
So I designed a bed, because we spend about a third of our lives in it, to
help me do most of the things that I would normally do when I am there.
Including heating and cooling the area around it.
This problem number one. Then what about all the things you do in bed.
while there are the obvious things like sleeping or having sex, and when
some people eat in their beds, or work in their beds, sometimes they just sit on
top of their beds and watch TV.
What are things that you normally have beside your bed, light clock
radio etc. etc..
But they all pick up clutter on either side of your bed and take up more
room. But it doesn't have to be that way either. I look at
everything in life and see all the improvements I could make to it. And
that's good enough for me. I have no intention of selling them more
mass-producing them. Unless someone wants to hire me to work in their
company to create such things at the very next to do so. but no one
ever has. so I plug away myself.
Every time you want to watch a movie, usually have to get up from your
bedgo find a movie, put it into your VCR or CD player, lay back in bed find the
And I just think about this for a second. How much time do you actually
spend doing does each and every time. can take Madame multiplied
Other times you do it a year. And you'll quickly realize, that
you've just wasted perhaps 20 hours worth of time. in some cases
more than that. now that's three days. Three working days. Or three
days on vacation.
When you're in your car, you have to go into your backseat to get the CDs?
do after going to the trunk start your car which to be also on your bed.
in my case movies are dispensed with automatically from a CD carousel.
all I do is type in the movie I wanted, either by title, or anything,
initials Miss lectured of movies in that group. all I do is click on
the one I want, and it spits out a, and that's the one I put in a CD reader
which is right beside my bed, so that I don't have to get up.
In fact my movies or the boxes that hold the movies don't have to be anywhere
near my bed, or anywhere near my living room. Everything is in carousels.
And every time my friends come over, because it's so technologically advanced.
with Les and Les and Kato
Hungarian folk Art
Not all men are the same
My Name is Les and I used to Live in Toronto
This is not a business. It is just my personal web page.